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Overview
  • Introduction
  • What is Clan Labs?
  • Core concepts
  • Requirements
  • Plans and availability
  • Quick start
Getting Started
  • Create or sign in
  • Add the Discord bot
  • Start setup with /setup
  • Select a Discord server
  • Connect a Roblox community
  • Confirm ownership
  • Choose a subscription
  • Configure Open Cloud
  • Complete setup
  • Recommended next steps
Setup Guides
  • Discord bot permissions
  • Roblox community connection
  • Roblox Open Cloud
  • Verification
  • Group and rank binds
  • Community permissions
  • Experience
  • Quotas
  • Welcome messages
  • Audit-log delivery
  • Events
  • Subscriptions
  • API keys
  • Divisions
Feature Guides
  • Member management
  • Profiles
  • Linked Roblox accounts
  • Experience and quotas
  • Ranks and group binds
  • Warnings
  • Suspensions
  • Blacklists
  • Medals and qualifications
  • Events and attendance
  • Audit logs and rollback
  • Analytics
  • Community permissions
  • Discord commands and actions
  • Pending join reviews
  • Custom bot branding
  • Discord server transfers
  • Privacy and account controls
  • Subscriptions and billing
Troubleshooting
  • Troubleshooting overview
  • Discord server is missing
  • Roblox community not found
  • Ownership cannot be confirmed
  • Bot permissions are missing
  • Discord role does not update
  • Role is above the bot
  • Verification fails
  • Open Cloud errors
  • Rank change fails
  • Profile does not sync
  • Command is unavailable
  • Action is not permitted
  • Subscription access is missing
  • Temporary service problem
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Troubleshooting

A role is above the Clan Labs bot’s highest role

Fix Discord role hierarchy so Clan Labs can assign, remove, or update the intended roles.

Last updated 3 September 2026

Symptom

A role action fails even though the bot has Manage Roles, or Clan Labs identifies a role that is above the Clan Labs bot’s highest role.

Most likely causes

  • The managed role is physically above the bot role in Discord’s role list.
  • The managed role and bot role are at the same effective position.
  • A newly created or renamed role changed the hierarchy.
  • The target is the Discord server owner or has a higher protected role.

Diagnostic checks

  1. Open Server Settings → Roles.
  2. Find the highest role assigned to the Clan Labs bot.
  3. Find each role named by the failed update.
  4. Confirm every managed role is below the bot role.
  5. Check whether the target is the server owner; bots cannot change the owner’s nickname and Discord protects some owner interactions.

Resolution

Drag the Clan Labs bot role above only the roles it needs to manage, then save. Do not give the bot a position above sensitive administrator roles unless its workflows genuinely require that. If the role should remain protected, remove it from Clan Labs binds instead.

When to retry

Run /update on one test member after Discord saves the hierarchy. Inspect Roles Added, Roles Removed, and Failed Roles before updating more members.

Contact support

Contact Clan Labs support if the role is visibly below the bot and Discord’s audit or error response still rejects the action.

Include this information

Include server ID, target user ID, bot role ID, failed role ID, exact error, timestamp, and a redacted role-order screenshot. Never share a Discord token.

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  1. Symptom
  2. Most likely causes
  3. Diagnostic checks
  4. Resolution
  5. When to retry
  6. Contact support
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